Very tired of interrupting my outfit building flow just to ask each creator if they're willing to edit their product settings to make them bundable. Most say yes, so I don't understand why the system is set up to so easily make this mistake. I feel like they were just in so much of a rush at the time of submitting that they didn't give it much thought.
Mind you, when I say most say yes, that's because I've learned which to ask. When it's a small item, like jewelry, scalers, etc (and they've been active lately) then they normally don't mind editing to make it bundable. But when it's a "main event" item, like skin, a furry set, top/bottoms/shoes, sometimes eyes... (or they're a popular creator), they often have an objection to this because they don't want to be connected to other creators sales, they're only here to focus on themselves, as many have explained to me.
I understand when they consciously selected non-bundable, at least this is their deliberate wish. I find it wastes a lot of time to unfairly mix so many of the "accident" ones together there. They're missing out on sales, and adding to the creator turnover that leave due to how complicated it is to run a successful shop. They've spent so many hours making their items, I feel it's a waste of my own time to make similar ones, I rather use theirs and sell it together. Modeling isn't good enough because most creators want free labor and free advertising. It does baffle me that imvu's Feed does offer a product list in the image Tag page where we can try on the item and buy it from there, but the person doesn't get any profit or bonus for aiding in the sale, and many creators explain that's what they want and that's why they won't hire, they rather wait to get lucky, and during that wait, most give up. So, in my opinion, this doesn't work, and I keep watching this cycle over and over again. I know staff is satisfied with the site profits that trickle down on their end and are not interested in raising it, but I do think it would benefit those who come here, as I'd like help to encourage them to stay and flourish and pay rent.
I'd like a Bundable Filter, I think it's as useful as the Deriviation Filter, because that's an advertising method and a much better way to remind creators to set their items bundable if they want help with their sales. I was skeptical of selling outfits at first, but after seeing so many in people's wishlists and seeing my furry heads sell in other other people's outfits, I'm happy to support this.
Fluffy for you,
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This confuses me, because sometimes it does make it go back through pr, and sometimes no, even if nothing else has been touched. I'm not sure why.
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This is all amazing! I'm so happy for you! How can we use your good experiences to make bundling more comfortable?
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@DiamondBones Good news for you. My new Mother of pearl series of products are now bundable.
Also I have asked in a seperate post for an easier way to make products bundable from the classic website without sending them into peer review again, because it could easily be done from the "Add HTML Description" page. Changing the price of a product does not send it back into peer, and also this change to bundable should not do that. The product does not change. It will make it easier to change a few thousand products without using Create mode or Studio.
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Actually my biggest fan is my wife XuanJan. She promotes me since we married almost ten years ago. And since she is from Chinese origin (Singapore) I mesh some Chinese New Year items specially for her every year since I started meshing.
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@DiamondBones I understand your problem. For me the creating process is more important than earning credits. Fortunally I do have a few "fans" who ask me for custom items and also promote me. One of them owns almost everything that is in my shop. I only found out recently when she asked for some request meshes. I do most advertising myself in feed/pulse, and it often results in sales. Also in some 35 facebook groups. And people buy products which they see when visiting my public rooms. So I have a lot of free advertising without using free models. I am in one room 24/7 and the chat often leads to sales.
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Hi @JanXuan I use to create missing items when I got fed up of searching, but since I don't get sales after putting in all that time, I rather just skip the project and look for other items to buy and use since there are just so many that are made with such advanced skills.
I've gotten to the point where I've collected more than 30k of products in my personal inventory, there's just no way I can use all of these myself. I can literally create a new outfit and room everyday of the year and still have enough combinations for many more unique styles. There's just no point in shopping for myself anymore, that's why I'm getting very interested in Bundling so maybe someone else could feel the joy I felt when I first bought my items. Especially for my friends who don't have the time and energy to put things together so well.
I do feel revived and more excited to buy more when having ideas to make a new bundle, because color matching is very important. But if it's just for myself, then I'd rather just use what I already have since I have so much. I feel there's more purpose when it's for building a new bundle. I don't know if that's a self esteem issue lol
That's really nice of you to bundle your items when someone asks, but I'm just tired lol A lot of the times when I don't pay attention and just buy what I want from shop and comfortably make an outfit, I'll see there's like 20 items that are not bundable in my final outfit or room... and I'm just so tired of asking each of those creators if they could edit to make them bundable, then wait, etc. I've done it in the past and still do when I'm really desperate, but honestly I'm too tired for this lol It's not fun. I shouldn't have to ask in the first place, it doesn't make sense.
What I don't like about the free modeling situation is that it attracts creators who want free labor, so if their products don't catch sales quickly, they leave, and the more creators that leave, the more the atmosphere creates a sense of low value and people will prefer to not take it seriously and break laws to get their profits. Advertising should be a Sellers best friend. I have so many creator friends here who put in all their energy in creating items, then they sit and wait for a miracle to happen, then they cry and blame the site for why their highly skilled creations don't get sold, or worse, they'll think the reason why they didn't get sales was because their creations were low quality (I think one of the saddest things I see here often is when a creator gave up on themselves, thinking they'll never be any good, then they randomly meet someone who not only enjoyed their products but put them together in a way that surpassed the creators expectations and they cry when they see it because they didn't know they made something so beautiful. It could take years for a creator to accidently bump into a fan, so it can be very emotional, I just don't think that's fair). It's different if you already have an income and just here for a hobby, there are people who want to make an actual income from imvu because it's their passion and they don't have many other skills.
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I was talking in chat to a friend of mine. This person is a Great Creator. This person has excellent artistic talents and the ability to make things in a moment. I asked, "Why do you have zero-change-derives in your catalog?" the answer was ... "Changing products to bundlable" LOL This person isn't here for money. Just fun...
BTW - I never pay anyone for Tagging my Feed. LOL They can advertise my stuff if they want to... If they love me they will anyway :D
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Well @DiamondBones That is something that I have never bothered about. Most of my products are furniture, because that is what I am good at. All my clothing is derived. My only clothing mesh is a tiara.
I started creating, not because I wanted to sell a lot and earn money. I don't need that. I am a creator because too often I could not find what I was looking for. I wasted lot of time browsing hundreds of pages and not finding that specific item. So I started making them myself.
I try to make unique products, often as a request. My aim is not to sell as much as possible. Of course I need some sales to submit new products. And I am happy with the sales because then I know that I made something, that made others happy. Many of my products are matching with other products because they were requested for a project, or because they belong to one of my own products. Maybe they would fit in in another creator's project, I have not ever really been thinking of making them bundable.
You don't want to waste your time searching for products that fit in in your plans. Neither do I, because I have done that too often. And that is the reason that I make them myself. I would not mind making a product bundable when requested though. But I don't set them bundable by default.
As for the paying for the tags, I see your point in that matter. But I also see a problem. The tags only show clothing products. But what about the furniture and rooms. Shouldn't they also be tagged then? I think that would turn in quite a mess. My room Victorian beauty has over 70 furniture. Where would IMVU need to put all those tags? IMVU would probably need a complete new server to get all the administration of all products in rooms and the revenues as you want them to pay.
As for modelling: Yes, I agree that that should not been done for free. Creators should pay the models. But paying for tags in the feed is in my eyes a step too far. Are you going to ask a real life fashion designer to pay you for showing his/her product in the street? If the creator did not ask you to show their product, there should be no reason to pay you for doing so. If you don't want to do free advertising through the tags, you have the option to switch your outfit to "Not visible to others". The choice is yours.
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Upvoted! I'd like a Bundable Filter. Yes Plz...
BTW, *all* of my products are Bundable except for unuseable products with intentionally bad texture materials.
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[Archived]Very tired of interrupting my outfit building flow just to ask each creator if they're willing to edit their product settings to make them bundable. Most say yes, so I don't understand why the system is set up to so easily make this mistake. I feel like they were just in so much of a rush at the time of submitting that they didn't give it much thought.
Mind you, when I say most say yes, that's because I've learned which to ask. When it's a small item, like jewelry, scalers, etc (and they've been active lately) then they normally don't mind editing to make it bundable. But when it's a "main event" item, like skin, a furry set, top/bottoms/shoes, sometimes eyes... (or they're a popular creator), they often have an objection to this because they don't want to be connected to other creators sales, they're only here to focus on themselves, as many have explained to me.
I understand when they consciously selected non-bundable, at least this is their deliberate wish. I find it wastes a lot of time to unfairly mix so many of the "accident" ones together there. They're missing out on sales, and adding to the creator turnover that leave due to how complicated it is to run a successful shop. They've spent so many hours making their items, I feel it's a waste of my own time to make similar ones, I rather use theirs and sell it together. Modeling isn't good enough because most creators want free labor and free advertising. It does baffle me that imvu's Feed does offer a product list in the image Tag page where we can try on the item and buy it from there, but the person doesn't get any profit or bonus for aiding in the sale, and many creators explain that's what they want and that's why they won't hire, they rather wait to get lucky, and during that wait, most give up. So, in my opinion, this doesn't work, and I keep watching this cycle over and over again. I know staff is satisfied with the site profits that trickle down on their end and are not interested in raising it, but I do think it would benefit those who come here, as I'd like help to encourage them to stay and flourish and pay rent.
I'd like a Bundable Filter, I think it's as useful as the Deriviation Filter, because that's an advertising method and a much better way to remind creators to set their items bundable if they want help with their sales. I was skeptical of selling outfits at first, but after seeing so many in people's wishlists and seeing my furry heads sell in other other people's outfits, I'm happy to support this.
Fluffy for you,
Dia
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Posted by “DiamondBones” on February 26, 2024.
[Archived]This confuses me, because sometimes it does make it go back through pr, and sometimes no, even if nothing else has been touched. I'm not sure why.
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Posted by “DiamondBones” on February 26, 2024.
[Archived]This is all amazing! I'm so happy for you! How can we use your good experiences to make bundling more comfortable?
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Posted by “JanXuan” on February 16, 2024.
[Archived]@DiamondBones Good news for you. My new Mother of pearl series of products are now bundable.
Also I have asked in a seperate post for an easier way to make products bundable from the classic website without sending them into peer review again, because it could easily be done from the "Add HTML Description" page. Changing the price of a product does not send it back into peer, and also this change to bundable should not do that. The product does not change. It will make it easier to change a few thousand products without using Create mode or Studio.
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Posted by “JanXuan” on February 01, 2024.
[Archived]Actually my biggest fan is my wife XuanJan. She promotes me since we married almost ten years ago. And since she is from Chinese origin (Singapore) I mesh some Chinese New Year items specially for her every year since I started meshing.
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Posted by “JanXuan” on February 01, 2024.
[Archived]@DiamondBones I understand your problem. For me the creating process is more important than earning credits. Fortunally I do have a few "fans" who ask me for custom items and also promote me. One of them owns almost everything that is in my shop. I only found out recently when she asked for some request meshes. I do most advertising myself in feed/pulse, and it often results in sales. Also in some 35 facebook groups. And people buy products which they see when visiting my public rooms. So I have a lot of free advertising without using free models. I am in one room 24/7 and the chat often leads to sales.
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Posted by “DiamondBones” on February 01, 2024.
[Archived]Hi @JanXuan I use to create missing items when I got fed up of searching, but since I don't get sales after putting in all that time, I rather just skip the project and look for other items to buy and use since there are just so many that are made with such advanced skills.
I've gotten to the point where I've collected more than 30k of products in my personal inventory, there's just no way I can use all of these myself. I can literally create a new outfit and room everyday of the year and still have enough combinations for many more unique styles. There's just no point in shopping for myself anymore, that's why I'm getting very interested in Bundling so maybe someone else could feel the joy I felt when I first bought my items. Especially for my friends who don't have the time and energy to put things together so well.
I do feel revived and more excited to buy more when having ideas to make a new bundle, because color matching is very important. But if it's just for myself, then I'd rather just use what I already have since I have so much. I feel there's more purpose when it's for building a new bundle. I don't know if that's a self esteem issue lol
That's really nice of you to bundle your items when someone asks, but I'm just tired lol A lot of the times when I don't pay attention and just buy what I want from shop and comfortably make an outfit, I'll see there's like 20 items that are not bundable in my final outfit or room... and I'm just so tired of asking each of those creators if they could edit to make them bundable, then wait, etc. I've done it in the past and still do when I'm really desperate, but honestly I'm too tired for this lol It's not fun. I shouldn't have to ask in the first place, it doesn't make sense.
What I don't like about the free modeling situation is that it attracts creators who want free labor, so if their products don't catch sales quickly, they leave, and the more creators that leave, the more the atmosphere creates a sense of low value and people will prefer to not take it seriously and break laws to get their profits. Advertising should be a Sellers best friend. I have so many creator friends here who put in all their energy in creating items, then they sit and wait for a miracle to happen, then they cry and blame the site for why their highly skilled creations don't get sold, or worse, they'll think the reason why they didn't get sales was because their creations were low quality (I think one of the saddest things I see here often is when a creator gave up on themselves, thinking they'll never be any good, then they randomly meet someone who not only enjoyed their products but put them together in a way that surpassed the creators expectations and they cry when they see it because they didn't know they made something so beautiful. It could take years for a creator to accidently bump into a fan, so it can be very emotional, I just don't think that's fair). It's different if you already have an income and just here for a hobby, there are people who want to make an actual income from imvu because it's their passion and they don't have many other skills.
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Posted by “LestatDeLioncourt” on January 16, 2024.
[Archived]I was talking in chat to a friend of mine. This person is a Great Creator. This person has excellent artistic talents and the ability to make things in a moment. I asked, "Why do you have zero-change-derives in your catalog?" the answer was ... "Changing products to bundlable" LOL This person isn't here for money. Just fun...
BTW - I never pay anyone for Tagging my Feed. LOL They can advertise my stuff if they want to... If they love me they will anyway :D
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Posted by “JanXuan” on January 15, 2024.
[Archived]Well @DiamondBones That is something that I have never bothered about. Most of my products are furniture, because that is what I am good at. All my clothing is derived. My only clothing mesh is a tiara.
I started creating, not because I wanted to sell a lot and earn money. I don't need that. I am a creator because too often I could not find what I was looking for. I wasted lot of time browsing hundreds of pages and not finding that specific item. So I started making them myself.
I try to make unique products, often as a request. My aim is not to sell as much as possible. Of course I need some sales to submit new products. And I am happy with the sales because then I know that I made something, that made others happy. Many of my products are matching with other products because they were requested for a project, or because they belong to one of my own products. Maybe they would fit in in another creator's project, I have not ever really been thinking of making them bundable.
You don't want to waste your time searching for products that fit in in your plans. Neither do I, because I have done that too often. And that is the reason that I make them myself. I would not mind making a product bundable when requested though. But I don't set them bundable by default.
As for the paying for the tags, I see your point in that matter. But I also see a problem. The tags only show clothing products. But what about the furniture and rooms. Shouldn't they also be tagged then? I think that would turn in quite a mess. My room Victorian beauty has over 70 furniture. Where would IMVU need to put all those tags? IMVU would probably need a complete new server to get all the administration of all products in rooms and the revenues as you want them to pay.
As for modelling: Yes, I agree that that should not been done for free. Creators should pay the models. But paying for tags in the feed is in my eyes a step too far. Are you going to ask a real life fashion designer to pay you for showing his/her product in the street? If the creator did not ask you to show their product, there should be no reason to pay you for doing so. If you don't want to do free advertising through the tags, you have the option to switch your outfit to "Not visible to others". The choice is yours.
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Posted by “LestatDeLioncourt” on January 15, 2024.
[Archived]Upvoted! I'd like a Bundable Filter. Yes Plz...
BTW, *all* of my products are Bundable except for unuseable products with intentionally bad texture materials.
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