Count Down To Shut Down OF Classic Or Is IMVU Completely Finished?

So I saw this topic and started reading responses and I saw something that caught my eye:

"I strongly suggest you spend some time learning it's features and give feedback to IMVU regarding, the inspirations you may have and contributive suggestions for further development"

Since there is IMVU Next, IMVU Desktop and IMVU Classic I decided to try all three.

Camera Navigation: Next and Desktop have better 360 viewing at the cost of speed. Classic has the viewing speed at the cost of less user friendly 360 viewing.

Product Nodes: Next and Desktop do this one very nice. You can see what your avatar is going to be doing before interacting with the product. Classic doesn't do this.

Chatting Experience: Each instance had it's ups and downs. Really comes down to preferences.
    Chat Box: Classic did this one better. It doesn't cover up the visual environment like Next or Desktop.
    Bubbles?: Do we need to see what we wrote twice? Next and Desktop wins here.
    Multiple Chat Sessions: Classic does better on being able to switch between chatting environments. Next and Desktop make it easier to follow along when not in a particular chatting scene.
    Changing Looks: I found the experience to be about the same across all three platforms.

@Abby819729 ..I have flagged your comment where you insulted and degraded people because they cannot stand the new crap IMVU is putting out..because you violated community board standards.Just because you dont like what we say doesnt mean you get to call people names and hurl insults at us.You have NO clue what you are talking about anyways.Other than the Classic Client, all the other versions are garbage, case closed.No music mixes, terrible graphics,less mobility to move around,and the list goes on and on.Mobile and Desktop are HORRIBLE.Just like electric cars are HORRIBLE.Why do you think electric cars have not taken off like they were supposed to by now.That was supposed to be the "new age invention" that all of us would soon be driving and own and that was years and years ago.Hardly anybody owns an electric car.Why? They suck, thats why....In your warped mind you think that newer automatically means better.You are so off its not even funny.The people that love and use Classic Client are the ones that spend the money on this website and keep it afloat, not the mobile newbies or desktop users.Tehy join for a month and leave.WE are the loyal ones that stay and spend money on music and items.Every idea they come up with backfires. What they should have done is put their money and resources into making the Classic Client even better and upgraded it.That would have saved this website.Do you see the declining numbers every single month? We used to have well over 100,000 people on at the same timew years ago,,on weekends it was over 150,000...now we are lucky to see it hit 30,000...and why do you think that is???? Let me answer that for you.All the people have quit and left because they refuse to upgrade and fix issues with the Classic Client.Yhey were going to get rid of the Classic Client about 5 years ago, but we have all fought them to keep it and they also do have a realization that if they do get rid of it, they may sink their ship for good...The Classic Client is where their real customers were and still are.If they dont get it together and realize that soon, and continue down the road with the mobile and desktop garbage, this website will be history.You can kiss it goodbye.So maybe then you can take all your great technology with you and drive off in your electric car into the sunset because IMVU will cease to exist....

@MrNathanLadds -- they only shutdown one version of the Flash widget but another new version exists that is functioning - this is more about $$$ than losing any contract -- plain and simple IMVU wants to control access to Music so they can profit through subscription access to use it on their platform.

I Think The #1 Problem On IMVU Is That The World Changed,
But Only A Portion People Actually Adjusted To Those Changes...
--- Social Networks (FaceBook, Twitter, Insta)
--- Social Media (TikTok)
--- Digital Control Your Mobile Phone & Perform Privacy Theft Everywhere
--- Computers Are Now Fitted For Mobile Portable Environments
--- AI Will Do Everything For You & Make It All Simple-er

Most Companies Think That The Whole World Jumped On This Waggon,
But In Reality, Only 15% Of That World Jumped On, ~____~

That's Why There Is Such A Massive Backlash,
& Also Why Companies Don't Understand Why, o____O

--- Face Book
--- Twitter
--- Robotic AI
--- STEAM (Largest Video Game PC Site)
--- Windows 11

Are All Massively Getting Hard Feedback,
& Massively Getting Destroyed By Customers...

If IMVU Wanted A Part Of That Future??
--- Then It's Clear Why They Are Also Getting Beaten To Shreds, Too

It's Cause It's Not As Enjoyable In Reality As It Sounded On Paper,
It's A Giant Mess, & Everyone Is Trashing It Hard, ~_____~

I Think Some Companies Got The Wrong Idea
What Everyone Wants In The World, &
Because They Are Pushing It Far Too Hard,
People Are Retaliating Back, ~___~


Am I Wrong??

The IMVU Staff Slanders Us & Disrespects Us, & Treats Us Like Dirt...

Yet They Throw In Words Like
Be Respectful In Our Faces??

Like Hell I Will, They Don't Deserve It, ~____~

They Stole Property That Was Paid For,
The Kill Accounts Whenever They Feel Like It,
They Make Content You Buy Disappear Anytime They Want...

Their Service Works Like Arzs,
& They Sell Broken Stuff Today...

---- In My View: They'll Get Respect When One Is Provided, Not Before...
------ & They Won't Get One Provided Until They Start Earning It, o___O


PamelaAnderson -

The songs sample perfectly fine before you buy them, then after you pay for them and put it into a mix, the wont work.

My Response:

Thank You, Now I Know Not To Buy Any New Songs...

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PS: To Abby819729

You Say That We Don't Understand Technology Enhancements

We Do, But What You Don't Understand Is,
Most That Stuff You Talk About Are For New Audiences Only...

We Stick To The Classic Client,
Because We Prefer It Over All Those
Technology Advancements You Call Improvements, o____O

Look At IMVU Next For Instance??

That Came With Higher Quality Avatars & Rooms,
Poses, & A Lot More...

When's Last Time It Got An Upgrade??
All The Way Back When Mini-Games Got Shut Down...

The New Desktop APP, I Quit Using It, Cause It Kept
Crashing On My Computer, The Free Spin Was Over Layed
By A Giant Advertisement I Couldn't Cancel Out All 

Because The Button To Close It Was Too Large On My
Dum Screen For Me To Find It, Anotherwords It Got
Hidden Behind Something I Could Not Fix A Problem On...

The Overall IMVU Experience On It Has Been Ultimately
Worst, & All I Really Want Is Just To Stay On Classic...

Let All The Younger Kids Use The Desktop BETA APP,
& The Mobile Phones...

The Staff Needs To Let Us Use The IMVU Classic & The IMVU Next...

You & The Staff Wants Everyone In The Same Place??

Srry To Burst Yours & Their Bubble, There,
But Most Kids Want To Be On Mobile,
& I Refuse To Put IMVU On A Mobile Phone...

Life Sucks, But That's Just Something People Have To Deal With,
We Want Different Things Then The Younger Kids Want...

We Leave Them Alone, & Don't Force Them To Use Our Experiences,
& We Don't Even Ask For Anything, But Privacy...

The Staff Can't Even Get The Staff Service Right At All, ~____~

You & The Staff Know Nothing About The Staff's Customers At All, o____O

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I'm Trying To Be Open Minded To Social Media,
But I Am Not A Social Network Fan, Soooo??

If The Product Is Anti-Social, Then The Product Is Dead,
If The Product Is Pro-Healthy Social, Then It's A Product I'm Willing To Give A Chance...

I Don't Do Anything On A Mobile Phone,
I Don't Do Anything On A Portable Device,
& Above All, Computers Should Just Be Computers...

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Now That We Settled This:

Lets Review What Abby Actually Wrote...

1.) Were to get one of the brand new electric motor cars full of the latest technological innovations

#1) Problem Is You Think Latest Technology In New Electric Cars Is Innovative??
------ I Disagree, I Think It's Anti-Innovative Instead
------ Costs Are High, Computer Chips In Cars Is Stupid
------ Self-Driving Causes Death, Because It's Fake Advertising

#2) This may be simply because you have no idea how the new technology works??

---- We Do, Which Is Exactly Why We Prefer The Classic, Not The Other Newer Products...

#3) It's camera is only 50,000 times better than the one in Classic ??

---- Last I Checked Clicking The New Camera Tools To Pan & Scan Rooms
------ Is Worst Then Using A Mouse To Roam The Rooms & It's Slower, Too
------ If You Wanted Mobile Format Clients?? Then Yes This Is Improved...
------ But We Don't Want That Junk, & Most The One's Who Do Already Have It...

4) It can display textures and lighting that are simply not possible in Classic??

---- Is This Having Anything To Do With AP + Or IMVU + Or VIP + Services At All??
---- What About NTSF Or What Products??

I Can Only Speak For Myself Here, But I Use None Of That At All,
If That's Where The New Improved Lighting & Textures Comes From,
Then I Have No Use For It, Because I Don't Use The Very Products
That Utilize The Lighting & Textures, ~___~

This Reminds Me Of When IMVU Added The Supposed Resizing Parts Of Avatars,
To Make Avatars Larger, Smaller, Skinny, Fat On IMVU... Which Improves Things,
But It Also Broke Poses, It Broke Shirts, Pants, It Even Broke Avatar Joints
On The Service, & No, You Can't Just Go, & Update The Product To Fix It,
Because The Problem Isn't In The Product, The Problem Is In The Resizers... ~___~

IMVU In 2026, Still Runs As If It Was Fitted To Run On The 2006 APP
Long Ago, Where Avatars Were Bulky, It Shows On Avatars, & Also
Furnature, & Even In Rooms...

The Size Of Rooms Haven't Even Been Fitted To An Adjustable Size
To Meet The Size Changes & Avatar Joint Adjustments To Make Room
For More Actual People To Utilize The Rooms, Above All, The Artwork,
The Furnature, & Many Other Things Haven't Been Fitted To This Adjustment, Either...

Sooo, In My View:

It's Like We Are Using Updated Improved Looking Avatar Qualities,
& Higher Textures On Things That Are Still Fitted To The 2006 APP,
Which Has Been Long Gone By Now... Heck, I've Even Seen Rooms Where
The Size Of Room Is Ultra Tiny, Yet The Furnature Going Inside Them
Barely Fits In Them, o___O

Such As A Basement Room, Or A Loft??
Where The Door Is At Top, With A Stair Case Going Down,
& It's Just A Rectangle Down On The Floor Level Space...


PS:

I strongly suggest you spend some time learning it's features???

----- and contributive suggestions for further development ??


Ok, You Want My Feedback Here It Is On Future Development??

"MY FEEDBACK FOR THE FUTURE"
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The Desktop BETA APP, Crashes Much Harder Then The Classic Does,
It Uses A Lot More Resources Then What The Classic Used...
--- This Sucks On Anything Driven By Windows 11

The Classic APP Needs A Switch Allowing Auto-Cache Clean Up Without Closing Client...

The Next Needs To Update & Change / Alter It's Log In Service,
The Log-In Service Takes Way Too Long To Load Compared To The
Log-In Screen That Used To Be There Before, We Don't Need A
Giant Wall Of Artwork To Load Long Before A Sign-In Box Appears,
Just Get Us The Sign-In Box, o____O

Get Rid Of The Pop Up Box On Top Of The Free Spin
On The New Desktop BETA Client...

The New Mouse Arrow Clicking Camera Settings
In Your Bottom Left Area?? Nobody Wants To Use That, ~___~

Incorporate The Same Technology Advanced Pose Spots
Onto The Desktop BETA Client That You Have On Next,
Bring The Music Player Over From The Classic To The
Desktop BETA APP...

Stop Messin With The Avatars & Genders In The IMVU Shop,
You Already Got Male & Female Ghosts Mixed Up As It Is,
Then You Got Male & Female Clothing Mixed Up In Shop...

Now You Want To Mix Up Genders, Too??

Your Shop Is An Entirely Cluster Screw Ball,
& The Navigation Of It All Is About As Much
Of An Abomination Due To Lack Of Maintenance,
Cleanliness, & Orderly Attractive Simple
Functionality, Which Actually Works... It Lacks
All Of This, & Not Just That?? But You Have Things
In The Wrong F Ing Categories, Shirts Where Pants Are,
Among Many Other Things... Actions In Other Categories...

Then You Have The IMVU Feed Which You Attached To Next??
--- Which I Would Never Actually Visit

Sooo, In The End??

MY FEEDBACK IS THIS:

I Have Tried & Gave The Desktop BETA A Chance,
I Have Tried The Mobile,
I Have Tried Next,
& I Have Used The Next Feed...

In The End:

I Still Choose To Use The Desktop Website,
I Still Choose To Use Classic Client,
I Still Use Promo & Real Credits,
I Still Want Bought Names To Be Permanent,
I Still Want My 2 Accounts That Got Deleted From IMVU Staff Back In Full,
I Still Say The Old Way To Get Credits Was Far Better,
& I Still Promote Avoiding Anything Else On IMVU... ~___~


My Feed Back Is I Still Prefer The Older System...

That's The Future Of IMVU In My View,
If That's Not Yours??

Then I'll Leave The Program When My Credits Run Out...
-- Good Luck With This Feedback, o____O

If any of you geriatrics supporting Classic were to get one of the brand new electric motor cars full of the latest technological innovations, you may in fact not know how most of it works and subsequently designate it as a modern pile of crap, and go back to your clanky old petrol powered car.

This may be simply because you have no idea how the new technology works and do not know how to access the benefits you have just paid for- 

This is a similar case with the new Desktop IMVU - It operates on an advanced technology not accessible by the old Classic App.

You believe the IMVU Desktop App is no good, simply because you have no idea how to use it - It's camera is only 50,000 times better than the one in Classic - It can display textures and lighting that are simply not possible in Classic-

I strongly suggest you spend some time learning it's features and give feedback to IMVU regarding, the inspirations you may have and contributive suggestions for further development    

They sell broken products that do not work constantly which is illegal and fraud.look at all the broken songs they are selling in the musict store.The songs sample perfectly fine before you buy them, then after you pay for them and put it into a mix, the wont work.They will show as playing but be totally silent.The songs go mute.They work when you sample them and dont work when they are put into mixes and we lose money constantly doing this.Also my room I had for 12 years and was our main room which had 100,000 visitors to it over the years and that we all used every single day disappeared off of my room listings and vanished and it happened right after I gave IMVU permission to go into my account to check the music issues.My room is gone forever and they have no explanation why.They even had the nerve to blame ME that I must have taken my own room down by mistake.Who takes a room down "by mistake"???? Let alone their main room they had for 12 years and was the room we used every single day.Why in the world would I take it down?They did it and have no records of it and have no way to get it back for me.Its very scary they could do this to you if they feel like it.I have NO violations on my record and they even said that and they have no idea where the room went to or why it disappeared.You would think they would have some way to get it back on a backup file or something but they say they do not.So my room is gone forever.I cried about it when I realized its gone forever.We had alot of geat memories in that room and alot of my dear friends who have since passed away spent alot of time in that old room.To lose it for no reason is heart breaking and they have no answers.They are the ONLY ones that could have did this , and my feeling is it was done on purpose because I put a complaint in about one of the IMVU agents who was very rude to me and they said they were going to discipline them.I also constantly put cases in with complaints and have become a bother to them, so I think they deleted my room on purpose to get me back....for revenge.Its very disturbing  to know you are at their mercy and can lose everything like that in a second if they want to....

The problem I seem to keep running into on this site is when something is broken , it takes to long for it to be fixed. I'm still getting multiple mails. When I access next to  do the spins I have to close it and reopen for it to load. I bought a shared room and that is a disaster. First thing it did not give me the option of which room I wanted to share, and it sent to invite to multi people. It also put the room on next empty. That room is fully decorated. I even did a shell change to another fully decorated room.  Plus the person I was sharing with landed in a different empty room we could not find each other. Support response was what I was telling them was a known issue with no ETA on a fix date. The heck with that  give me my money back. You have knowledge and still promoting and selling a defective product.  If they don't refund me I'm doing a bank charge back. When they get their mess fix I'll buy again until then  no they can't keep my money for a useless defective product. 

I feel like the people from sl are trying to trick us into going to sl and we won’t imvu is home 

We need classic 

YutakaSuzuki

Why do you capitalize every word in each comment you post?

This Is Why We Have Some People On IMVU
Who Sound Like They Are Part Of The Community,
However In Actuality They Sound Like They Actually
Want IMVU To Collapse...

("This Is Proof That Some Users Don't Support The Majority Of Users")
("Don't Believe Me, Then Read For Your Self?")

Top Poster:                                        

The fact that IMVU Classic has not been shut down yet and still gets updates every couple months is proof that some folk working with IMVU have been smart enough to keep the doors open. 

My Response:

I just wish they would focus more time and energy on Classic because the users of Classic are a major source of income and the backbone of IMVU.



You Don't Seem To Understand Do You?

Why Do Everyone Want The Classic? Because All Other Iterations Were Done Bad,
Soooo, Now What? You Want Them To Ruin The Classic, Too? ~__~

The Point Of The Classic, Was That It Was Classic,
People Don't Want That Updated, Because It Was Fine
Just The Way It Was.

The More They Update The Classic,
The More Classic Just Gets Ruined,
& Continues To Get Worst...

I Want The Old Classic Back, & For The IMVU Staff
To Stop Messin With It, & Just Make Optimization Updates...

Let All Their New Efforts Put On Future IMVU Projects,
Like The Desktop APP, The Next, & The Mobile...

Then People Can See What & How Updates Ruin The Classic,
By Looking At All The Other Versions Being Ruined, o___O

I've Never Liked Mobile, Nor Things Like FaceBook,
If They Shove IMVU Into That Direction, & Delete
What Was The Classic Before It?

I Will Quit, & Not Come Back, ~___~

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In Next, I Can't Even Find My Furnature Anymore,
In Mobile The Funky Controls & Awkward Screen...

In The New Desktop APP, The Advertising Is Atrocious,
& The Funky Controls Ruin The APP...

The Classic Was Just Fine Without Any Update At All...


Don't You All See, Are You That Blind?

They Ruin 3 Or So APP's, & You Want Them To Have Another
Try With A 4th APP, Just Cause You Don't Like Anything Else...

When Are You Gonna Wake Up?

Updating The APP's Is What Drove IMVU Into This Mess From The Start... ~___~

Update - Windows 10 = Broke Windows 10
Update - Windows 10 = Created The Windows 11
Update - Adult Pass = This Went Poorly
Update - VIP Pass = This Is Now Over Priced Junk
Update - The Next = Broke Next
Update - Mobile = Did Not Improve Mobile
Create New - Desktop Client = Broken Client
Update Old - Desktop Client = Ruined & Broke Client
Created New - Windows = The Windows 11 Abomination
Updated - Windows 11 = Broke Windows 11 Worst & Worst

Stop Updating, lOl, ^___-


The Classic Is A Classic For A Reason,
Because It's Not Supposed To Be Updated, ~___~

After Everything Said Here,
I Think Some People Either
Can't Handle A Product That Won't Update,
Or They Are Obsessed With Broken Problems...

It's As If There Are People Who Just Don't
Want Anything Classic Or Retro, Or Even Antique
To Exist Anymore, So They Refuse To Stop Updating,
& Changing Them To Be Just Like All Other More
Future Garbagy That People Can't Stop Inventing,
While The Whole World Is Saying Stop Inventing Slop, ~___~

Why Else Would You Riot Cities, & Break, & Destroy Things,
Because Your Driven To Do So By Peope Who Love Control Over You,
& Obsess With Manipulating You Upon The Lines Till Your Suicide Comes,
& They Take Pride In Your Death...

These People Aren't Anyone's Friend, &
People Need To Stop Supporting & Listening To Them...

Your Being Tricked Into This, & If You Want Proof Of This,
Then Think About How You Already Have A Computer Desktop Client
That Is Newer, & Can Run All The Bogus New Stuff All The Mobile
Next Stuff Runs... Yet, People Only Want The Classic To Update,
Anybody Care To Ask Why? o____O

What If I Said, The Only Reason They Want The Classic To Be Focused On,
Is Because It's The Only Client Not Having Trouble, & Not Broken, So
They Insist In It's Updates Moving Forwards, Obsessively Till It Does...

How About Now? You Still Not Convinced That Some
People Are Supportive Of The Majority In The Room,
Or Do You Prefer To Continue To Support More Updates
To Find How How Bad Your Being Betrayed By The Staff Here?



Prove Me Wrong?

My thoughts are running along the lines of IMVU Classic is suffering the same fate as the 20 year old RedlightCenter AKA Utheverse. The program is so old it is limited in what the Devs can do to update. I can assure you that the newer versions of this game all fall flat. When I initially joined I signed on the newer version of game figuring come in with a clean slate. I hated it. Told support this mess is not ready for release to the public and quit the game. It was my friends that dragged me back to classic. I really liked it. Everything looked 3D  and I could find the dots without a version of me sitting or standing before I got there. I won't even address the spooky mannequins in the rooms. So maybe it's time for the PTB to say to us  This is all we can do with classic the program is to old to update further. Then we can be satisfied with them just keeping Classic running in good condition. I don't buy that 2D looking clothing furniture or rooms. When I see that colorless junk with no depth to it I pass it by at high speed. Sell that mess in a cartoon world because a cartoon is all it is. The selling point of all these game is being 3D. Lose the 3D effect and you lose the concept of making things appear real and that is your money maker.

The fact that IMVU Classic has not been shut down yet and still gets updates every couple months is proof that some folk working with IMVU have been smart enough to keep the doors open. 

I just wish they would focus more time and energy on Classic because the users of Classic are a major source of income and the backbone of IMVU. 

I am unsure how much IMVU can earn from the advertisers that spam the users who don't use Classic but it is probably enough to keep the site afloat if the Classic users left. Still they want both sources of income and this is why IMVU Classic won't be scrapped anytime soon.

I hope this simple logic offers some comfort to those whom are worried. 

Agreed...If IMVU gets rid of the Classic client, that will be the final deathblow for this website.it will be over.Its dying badly right now and that would be the final nail in the coffin for the website, and its a damn shame.Mobile is absolutely horrible, and no matter how much they try to con us and try to get us to that horrible desktop version they have now, we are not stupid...Desktop is  absolutely horrible as well.NEWSFLASH FOR YOU IMVU....WE HATE THE DESKTOP SO STOP FOCUSING ON THAT MESS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING THERE AND NEVER WILL....WE WILL ALL LEAVE !!!! EVEN THOUGH YOU WILL NEVER LISTEN TO US, IF YOU WERE SMART AND ACTUALLY UPGRADED THE CLASSIC CLIENT AND PUT YOUR RESOURCES AND EFFORTS INTO FIXING THAT AND MAKING THAT YOUR MAIN FOCUS INSTEAD OF THE CRAP DESKTOP AND MOBILE VERSIONS,YOU WOULD ACTUALLY KEEP THE MEMBERS YOU HAVE NOW (THE LOYAL MEMBERS WHO ACTUALLY CARE AND SPEND MONEY ON YOUR WEBSITE) AND ALSO START PICKING UP NEW CUSTOMERS AND MEMBERS WHO WOULD BE EXCITED TO SEE AN IMPROVED CLASSIC CLIENT.YOU WOULD EVEN GET BACK OLD MEMBERS THAT YOU RAN OFF THE SITE AS WELL IF THEY SAW THAT..WE WOULD RATHER PAY FOR SOMETHING WE ENJOY INSTEAD OF THAT MESS YOU HAVE ON DESKTOP AND MOBILE.YOUR NUMBERS ARE STEADILY DROPPING EVERY SINGLE MONTH..CANT YOU SEE THAT??? WE ALL HAVE BEEN WARNING YOU WHAT YOU NEEDED TO DO AND YOU HAVE COMPLETELY IGNORED ALL OF US...THE CLASSIC CLIENT IS YOUR ONLY SAVIOR IF YOU DONT WANT TO END UP GOING OUT OF BUSINESS..YOU BETTER LISTEN TO US BEFORE ITS TOO LATE !!!!