[Archived - RigsK] Important Update - Requiring VIP for Earn Money Program

Posted by “Sylaraia” on August 22, 2023.

Yes, and? IMVU has weathered the worst they're going to experience regarding backlash over this policy change and didn't flinch. They made concessions to people with multiple accounts and that's it. They're not backing down. So, I ask you again what is the logic behind replacing requiring VIP with a processing fee, under the assumption that it'd be the same cost? All you're doing is arguing for IMVU to charge you the same to give you less.

Side note, I am also under the assumption that this would be just as much of a hassle for people in countries where purchasing VIP is a hassle. If it is not, I'm sorry - and I'd definitely be all for them being able to have the alternate of a processing fee, since the costs Poly listed undoubtedly outweigh the perks of VIP (that being the monthly credits might possibly take some of the financial sting out of this).

Posted by “DOLLB4BY” on August 22, 2023.

nobody is posting nonsense stop being rude to others

Posted by “DOLLB4BY” on August 22, 2023.

More creators want to nullify this new forced membership, they do not want a vip custom anything

Posted by “Marilena” on August 22, 2023.

@Polystyrene​ I tried it but it takes me to 9 usd vip screen

Posted by “Sylaraia” on August 22, 2023.

For those who have the option, the $50 gift card redemption for VIP offer still works too. That's the route I go. I'm guessing that isn't an option for people like Poly and others in certain countries, though. :(

Posted by “Polystyrene” on August 22, 2023.

There already is a metric for that - IMVU Store Purchases :P

Posted by “Sylaraia” on August 22, 2023.

I agree. I've long been on the opinion that the whole VIP thing should be a Chinese menu of options rather than this list of what some executive who has never used the product and probably has no interest in the actual user experience of IMVU thought up at some board meeting to sound hip, cool and young. I mean, heck, considering the categories in tiers, half of which have absolutely nothing to do with actual creating, why not throw in a whole tier bump for people who buy VIP? I mean, half the damn categories are flagrant, 'you scratch my back, I'll scratch your back,' things to begin with, so why not throw that bone in so that I can save a literal nickel on publishing items in the catalog?

Posted by “shopdaisylogo” on August 22, 2023.

@EMpulse​ How about asking for a one of payment fee yearly to cash out for low earners, and put in a clause you can only cash out once. Any other funds will have to be done the following year. Imvu will still be earning on the interest on the money that is sitting there. And also a clause that it can only be up to a certain amount. Anything above will have to be vip.

Posted by “Erieann” on August 22, 2023.

You may not buy into those ideas but if you read a lot of the comments, there are more than enough creators that would opt for a custom VIP subscription catered to just creators if this is the way things need to be. Part of business is looking into options, making plausible suggestions that would benefit both sides of the fence. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Hopefully something that IMVU will learn as well.

As for looking into things, what do you think the Research and Development team does for a business? They analyze numbers, take a look at processes, and then give the advice to the company of what changes are recommended for the benefit of the company. While you may not like the advice or the decision to follow that advice, that is inconsequential in business. The only thing you can do is stop supporting the business if you don't support what the business is doing or standing for.

I am sorry that you and your mouse in the pocket (still assuming that is the "we" you keep talking about) do not want to pay the cash out. That is your choice not to if you don't see that it's worth all the hoopla. Many other creators have made that decision as well. Personally, I think creators would stand a better chance by submitting ideas for the custom VIP subscription than they would, forgive me for my bluntness, in following your footsteps in demanding and making baseless and factless accusations of unfair treatment based on minority status or individual hardship and posting non-stop nonsensical comments that can leave other creators frustrated because you give the impression that you have no real want to have a dialog with anyone nor want to hear their opinions.

Posted by “DOLLB4BY” on August 22, 2023.

Were not buying into those ideas, we don't want to pay to cash out this will not change we don't know that anyone decided to take a second look at anything.

Posted by “Erieann” on August 22, 2023.

It's not that they won't look at it. They did. But when creators don't pay for services and only get paid out, they lose money. They have to make money in order for them to stay in business and paying it out constantly with no changes, which again they did promise the grandfathered status would change back in 2012 without saying when or how; that doesn't make the money to be able to keep the platform going so we could even be classified as IMVU creators.

I could get behind paying a fee for those that don't cash out often. I can get behind suggesting a custom VIP subscription for creators in which if they subscribe, the fees would go away along with some other good perks that creators could benefit from. One would be do away with the submission fee but keep the dev fee as we know without the epic meshers, we'd not be able to do any of our work.

As for the minority thing, not sure why that is getting brought into the mix. Need clarification on that one of your meaning.

Posted by “DOLLB4BY” on August 22, 2023.

These are the facts that IMVU won't look at, leaving more vulnerable creators and or disproportionally affected minorities and individuals in an unfair position nobody should be forced to pay for their rightful earnings on a forced subscription basis.

Posted by “Vana” on August 22, 2023.

I would personally be fine with a small fee to cash out. But then again I dont make the big bucks anymore and it takes months for it to add up to something significant. I have no problem with cashing out twice a year. I could even do it once if necessary. I think its something to consider for those such as myself. I won't pay for VIP because I simply cannot afford it. I have medication I can't afford anymore, and most consider Insulin to be rather important. I am at my wits end with this......but thank you to staff for providing some answers.

Posted by “DOLLB4BY” on August 22, 2023.

Our commissions should be raised as anything in life adjustments are needed were asking imvu to go back to the drawing board abolish the 10 forced subscriptions or implement a fee of 99cents or something 10 a month is not good were not trying to pay this or have vip at all.

Posted by “Erieann” on August 22, 2023.

commissions? on what? work that you submitted and get paid for every time you sell a product which is the very definition of commission?

Venmo, to cash out $50 charged me $2 for an instant transfer fee. I have to pay a transfer fee every time I want to cash out and the fee goes up the higher the amount. So you are asking IMVU to charge the creators more than the VIP monthly subscription, which if I remember the lowest that you can go is $10, because we all know that use services like Venmo, PayPal, etc will just charge higher fees for larger amounts. No thank you. I'd rather they try to offer us a custom VIP package that would make it worth while and pay that $10 a month than a fee every time we want to cash out. Fees rack up. At least the subscription is a flat rate every month.