This is an important update for Grandfathered Creators.
In the announcement below we stated that starting July 1, 2023, all Earn Money Creators, including Grandfathered Creators, will be required to have either Platinum or Diamond VIP in order to be in the Earn Money Program and receive cash payouts.
(This requirement does not affect Grandfathered Creators who are subscribed to legacy VIP (from before Tiered VIP launched).
We realize this is a huge change for many Grandfathered Creators and have been closely following feedback regarding this new policy.
Based on your valuable input, we have come up with a solution that should make it easier for affected Creators to transition.
Details are as follows:
LINKED ACCOUNTS FOR GRANDFATHERED CREATORS
Starting July 1, 2023, Creators will be able to link three Grandfathered Creator accounts together, with only one VIP subscription.
Creators will choose one Grandfathered account for their VIP subscription, and two additional Grandfathered accounts that will not need VIP.
If a Creator already pays for Platinum or Diamond VIP on a non-Grandfathered account, they can apply it to two of their Grandfathered accounts.
All three linked accounts will be eligible for the Earn Money Program and payouts.
Once the accounts are linked, new earnings from these accounts will be combined into one MASA balance. Earnings from before the accounts are linked will not be combined.
Grandfathered accounts that are grouped with a VIP account will not need to apply for the Earn Money Program as long as they have already been approved to participate in the Earn Money Program prior.
Starting August 2023, earnings from the linked accounts can be set up to funnel into the VIP account.
INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO LINK GRANDFATHERED ACCOUNTS
Here’s how to link a Platinum or Diamond VIP Grandfathered account with two additional accounts.
Make sure one of your Creator accounts has Platinum or Diamond VIP
Submit a help ticket to the Earn Money Program, requesting linked accounts. List an account that has VIP, and two Grandfathered accounts that do not have VIP.
If any of the linked accounts is not in the Earn Money Program, those account(s) will need to join to earn money and request a payout. All accounts will be able to apply to the Earn Money Program without a VIP subscription. However, you will not be able to earn money or request a payout until the account has a qualified VIP subscription or is linked to a Grandfathered account with a qualified VIP subscription.
Once the team receives your ticket (and your Earn Money application(s) if applicable), they will:
Check to make sure the accounts are owned by you
Confirm your Earn Money Program application has been accepted.
As soon as your accounts are approved, the team will link them together, so all three can be in the Earn Money Program with only one VIP subscription
ADDITIONAL BENEFIT - JULY ONLY
Between July 1 and July 30, Earn Money accounts with less than $50 can convert their balances into Credits. To receive Credits, send a help ticket to the Earn Money team.
Attention Creators - Starting July 1 Earn Money Payouts will require VIP
This is an important notice for Creators who are not signed up for VIP but still receive cash payouts in the Earn Money Program.
Starting July 1, 2023, all Earn Money Creators will be required to have either Platinum or Diamond VIP in order to receive cash payouts.
This does not include legacy Creators who signed up for VIP before the Tiered VIP system launched. They already have the equivalent of Platinum VIP and do not need to take any action.
CLARIFICATION:
Added 5/18/23: By "legacy Creators" we mean Grandfathered Creators. Grandfathered Creators without VIP will still be able to create, submit to their shop and earn Credits.
When this new requirement is introduced, Grandfathered Creators without VIP will still be able to create, submit to their shop and earn Credits.
Added 5/23/23 - You will not be able to earn cash or receive payouts unless you purchase Platinum or Diamond VIP. Once you join VIP you can earn cash and receive payouts. You will not lose existing cash balances. They will simply not be available without VIP.
The Platinum and Diamond VIP memberships offer exclusive benefits that will help Creators make the most of their IMVU experience, including free live chat rooms, live voice broadcasting, and catalog discounts. See our store https://www.imvu.com/next/store/ for more details.
We realize VIP is new to many of you, and to that end, we have provided several weeks of notice so that you can review the Platinum and Diamond VIP offerings and decide which is right for you. See our store https://www.imvu.com/next/store/ for more details.
Thank you!
The IMVU Creator Team
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Posted by “Vana” on May 16, 2023.
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I had VIP for years before the tiered came out. I cancelled my VIP because I simply could no longer afford it. Im on social security disability and have a fixed income. But now the increase of prices from COVID have caught up to me and Im running short of paying bills by $100 a month compared to what I bring in. My income from Imvu is nothing like it was 10 years ago. It would not even account for that $100 a month that Im short to pay my bills. But I appreciate every dollar I can get.
Now youre FORCING me to pay $10 a month to have access to the little extra I have earned......Im just floored. Prices are continuing to increase and now a medical situation is taking up yet another extra $100 A month. When it rains , it pours. I've been on this site for 16 years and a developer for at least 13 of those years. I am not at all surprised by this but I am extremely upset. This is NOT FAIR and IT IS NOT RIGHT!
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Posted by “HunnyHer” on May 16, 2023.
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@RigsK Ive already expressed this on another thread but will do so here as well
Can we at least get someone to approve letting us merge our accts? Fine, I'll give you $10 for VIP to get paid but I have 10 ACTIVE accts. All grandfathered. This new little "rule" is now going to cost me $120 a month- when Im already earning less than ever.
Also, is now a bad time to ask for a raise? I mean you guys told us however many years ago that $40 per 100k was a STARTING POINT. Incase yall havent noticed inflation is sky high. I notice IMVU has raised their prices for credits SEVERAL times but guess how many times weve gotten a raise? ZERO.
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Posted by “AThousandTales” on May 16, 2023.
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About eleven years ago, your former employee Varsha wrote the following:
May 10, 2012 new Content Creators must be VIPs in order to submit virtual goods to IMVU’s catalog.
However, all users who as of May 10, 2012 10 AM Pacific Time, are enrolled in the Content Creator program will be “grandfathered” for an indefinite period of time. This means that if you have signed up for the Content Creator program prior to May 10th, you will continue to enjoy uninterrupted product submission capabilities without the necessity of being a VIP. Of course, many of you are already part of our exclusive VIP club for the many other benefits you enjoy. We reserve the right to end the “grandfathering” benefit at any time, but we do not anticipate doing so now.
Yes, you did warn us back in 2012 that the grandfathering may end someday. I honestly did not expect it to happen eleven years later, and frankly, I fail to understand why.
You are forgetting that creators are the backbone of your business. Without them, IMVU would never have had the large catalog it has now. You profited off that. You profited off the developer fees that these people paid, and the income that is gained with each product sale. You promote your website/app using the products these creators have made. The people who have invested so much time and money for your business to gain popularity.
This is how you chose to repay them.
IMVU has changed a lot since 2012. Some changes have been for the better, many for worse. Rule #1 of any succesful business is to listen to your customers, but oftentimes this seems to be ignored here. There is an odd focus on gaining new, short-time members, instead of investing in customer retention.
Is it no wonder that the numbers of people who are online continue to drop?
Is it no wonder that IMVU apparently needs to resort to measures like these, in order to stay afloat financially?
And lastly... Will the new VIP subscription gains be enough to cancel out the upcoming exodus of grandfathered creators?
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Posted by “MsPixelicious” on May 16, 2023.
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this cannot be legal!!
...forcing your ENTIRE workforce to "PAY for the RIGHT" to gain access to the money THEY'VE EARNED with their skills, talent and loyalty??
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Posted by “TsukiYun” on May 16, 2023.
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Even though I'm not a grandfathered creator I know what this means for them. Why? That's my only question. It's like they want to run off all the older creators and users on this platform.
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Posted by “ladyizabella” on May 16, 2023.
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Sales have not been increasing at all as membership continues to be drop So instead of enhancing the experience, lets take money from the people that spend hours making items. Is it not enough that over 40% of credit value is already being taken by IMVU? Is it not enough we already pay for derivations and sometimes get no sales on that item? With 2 dev accounts active I have to pay $240 per year? I already pay for VIP on one of my newer accounts, but it seems they want you to pay for the platinum at least now. Who in their right mind will dev for credits alone if they have a catalog with over 10k items? I know if this is approved I will certainly raise prices of many of my products and if it doesn't balance out in terms of profit I will simply close out my entire catalog.
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Posted by “ladyizabella” on May 16, 2023.
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Is this a joke? $120 per year because you can't get enough members to sign up? You don't take enough money from my creations already? Wow!
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Posted by “LestatDeLioncourt” on May 16, 2023.
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I beg IMVU to reconsider. This could be catastrophic for the IMVU Catalog and Quality Products.
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Posted by “LestatDeLioncourt” on May 16, 2023.
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I beg IMVU to reconsider. This could be catastrophic for the IMVU Catalog and Quality Products.
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Posted by “Goldilocks” on May 16, 2023.
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Posted by “LestatDeLioncourt” on May 16, 2023.
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I *assume and I think IMVU meant to say . . .
This does not include legacy Creators who signed up for VIP before the Tiered VIP system launched.
This does not include legacy Creators who signed the Creator Agreement before the Tiered VIP system launched.
I am sure @RigsK can confirm this and it *may* be a typo in the announcement.
Legacy Creators:
These Creators are the ones who signed the Creator Agreement before midnight on 10 April 2012.
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Posted by “RigsK” on May 16, 2023.
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Hi Folks,
Here's more info that might prove helpful:
Do grandfathered Creators need VIP to create? No, Grandfathered Creators only need VIP if they would like to request a payout from the Earn Money Program
If my legacy VIP has lapsed and I don't have VIP anymore, can I still receive an Earn Money Payout? No you need active VIP.
If I am a Grandfathered Creator will my shop disappear if I don't purchase VIP or my VIP lapses? No your shop will not disappear. You will still be able to create, your shop will be visible, and you will be able to add new items to your shop. The only difference is that you will not be able to receive Earn Money payouts.
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Posted by “MsPixelicious” on May 16, 2023.
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youre forcing EVERYONE to sign up for your nonsense VIP if they want to get paid for their effort and creations??
youre forcing EVERYONE to cough up a minimum of $10 a month if they want to see a cent of what theyve earned here?
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Posted by “RigsK” on May 15, 2023.
[Archived]This is an important update for Grandfathered Creators.
In the announcement below we stated that starting July 1, 2023, all Earn Money Creators, including Grandfathered Creators, will be required to have either Platinum or Diamond VIP in order to be in the Earn Money Program and receive cash payouts.
(This requirement does not affect Grandfathered Creators who are subscribed to legacy VIP (from before Tiered VIP launched).
We realize this is a huge change for many Grandfathered Creators and have been closely following feedback regarding this new policy.
Based on your valuable input, we have come up with a solution that should make it easier for affected Creators to transition.
Details are as follows:
LINKED ACCOUNTS FOR GRANDFATHERED CREATORS
INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO LINK GRANDFATHERED ACCOUNTS
Here’s how to link a Platinum or Diamond VIP Grandfathered account with two additional accounts.
ADDITIONAL BENEFIT - JULY ONLY
Between July 1 and July 30, Earn Money accounts with less than $50 can convert their balances into Credits. To receive Credits, send a help ticket to the Earn Money team.
FAQ http://im.vu/help1072
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Original Message 5/18/23
Attention Creators - Starting July 1 Earn Money Payouts will require VIP
This is an important notice for Creators who are not signed up for VIP but still receive cash payouts in the Earn Money Program.
Starting July 1, 2023, all Earn Money Creators will be required to have either Platinum or Diamond VIP in order to receive cash payouts.
This does not include legacy Creators who signed up for VIP before the Tiered VIP system launched. They already have the equivalent of Platinum VIP and do not need to take any action.
CLARIFICATION:
The Platinum and Diamond VIP memberships offer exclusive benefits that will help Creators make the most of their IMVU experience, including free live chat rooms, live voice broadcasting, and catalog discounts. See our store https://www.imvu.com/next/store/ for more details.
We realize VIP is new to many of you, and to that end, we have provided several weeks of notice so that you can review the Platinum and Diamond VIP offerings and decide which is right for you. See our store https://www.imvu.com/next/store/ for more details.
Thank you!
The IMVU Creator Team
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Posted by “Vana” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]I had VIP for years before the tiered came out. I cancelled my VIP because I simply could no longer afford it. Im on social security disability and have a fixed income. But now the increase of prices from COVID have caught up to me and Im running short of paying bills by $100 a month compared to what I bring in. My income from Imvu is nothing like it was 10 years ago. It would not even account for that $100 a month that Im short to pay my bills. But I appreciate every dollar I can get.
Now youre FORCING me to pay $10 a month to have access to the little extra I have earned......Im just floored. Prices are continuing to increase and now a medical situation is taking up yet another extra $100 A month. When it rains , it pours. I've been on this site for 16 years and a developer for at least 13 of those years. I am not at all surprised by this but I am extremely upset. This is NOT FAIR and IT IS NOT RIGHT!
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Posted by “HunnyHer” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]@RigsK Ive already expressed this on another thread but will do so here as well
Can we at least get someone to approve letting us merge our accts? Fine, I'll give you $10 for VIP to get paid but I have 10 ACTIVE accts. All grandfathered. This new little "rule" is now going to cost me $120 a month- when Im already earning less than ever.
Also, is now a bad time to ask for a raise? I mean you guys told us however many years ago that $40 per 100k was a STARTING POINT. Incase yall havent noticed inflation is sky high. I notice IMVU has raised their prices for credits SEVERAL times but guess how many times weve gotten a raise? ZERO.
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Posted by “AThousandTales” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]About eleven years ago, your former employee Varsha wrote the following:
May 10, 2012 new Content Creators must be VIPs in order to submit virtual goods to IMVU’s catalog.
However, all users who as of May 10, 2012 10 AM Pacific Time, are enrolled in the Content Creator program will be “grandfathered” for an indefinite period of time. This means that if you have signed up for the Content Creator program prior to May 10th, you will continue to enjoy uninterrupted product submission capabilities without the necessity of being a VIP. Of course, many of you are already part of our exclusive VIP club for the many other benefits you enjoy. We reserve the right to end the “grandfathering” benefit at any time, but we do not anticipate doing so now.
Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20170419082621/http://www.imvu.com/catalog/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpbb2&file=viewtopic.php&p=10209480#10209480
Yes, you did warn us back in 2012 that the grandfathering may end someday. I honestly did not expect it to happen eleven years later, and frankly, I fail to understand why.
You are forgetting that creators are the backbone of your business. Without them, IMVU would never have had the large catalog it has now. You profited off that. You profited off the developer fees that these people paid, and the income that is gained with each product sale. You promote your website/app using the products these creators have made. The people who have invested so much time and money for your business to gain popularity.
This is how you chose to repay them.
IMVU has changed a lot since 2012. Some changes have been for the better, many for worse. Rule #1 of any succesful business is to listen to your customers, but oftentimes this seems to be ignored here. There is an odd focus on gaining new, short-time members, instead of investing in customer retention.
Is it no wonder that the numbers of people who are online continue to drop?
Is it no wonder that IMVU apparently needs to resort to measures like these, in order to stay afloat financially?
And lastly... Will the new VIP subscription gains be enough to cancel out the upcoming exodus of grandfathered creators?
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Posted by “MsPixelicious” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]this cannot be legal!!
...forcing your ENTIRE workforce to "PAY for the RIGHT" to gain access to the money THEY'VE EARNED with their skills, talent and loyalty??
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Community posted 5 months ago Admin
Posted by “TsukiYun” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]Even though I'm not a grandfathered creator I know what this means for them. Why? That's my only question. It's like they want to run off all the older creators and users on this platform.
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Community posted 5 months ago Admin
Posted by “ladyizabella” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]Sales have not been increasing at all as membership continues to be drop So instead of enhancing the experience, lets take money from the people that spend hours making items. Is it not enough that over 40% of credit value is already being taken by IMVU? Is it not enough we already pay for derivations and sometimes get no sales on that item? With 2 dev accounts active I have to pay $240 per year? I already pay for VIP on one of my newer accounts, but it seems they want you to pay for the platinum at least now. Who in their right mind will dev for credits alone if they have a catalog with over 10k items? I know if this is approved I will certainly raise prices of many of my products and if it doesn't balance out in terms of profit I will simply close out my entire catalog.
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Community posted 5 months ago Admin
Posted by “ladyizabella” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]Is this a joke? $120 per year because you can't get enough members to sign up? You don't take enough money from my creations already? Wow!
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Posted by “LestatDeLioncourt” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]I beg IMVU to reconsider. This could be catastrophic for the IMVU Catalog and Quality Products.
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Community posted 5 months ago Admin
Posted by “LestatDeLioncourt” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]I beg IMVU to reconsider. This could be catastrophic for the IMVU Catalog and Quality Products.
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Posted by “Goldilocks” on May 16, 2023.
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Posted by “LestatDeLioncourt” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]I *assume and I think IMVU meant to say . . .
up for VIPbefore the Tiered VIP system launched.I am sure @RigsK can confirm this and it *may* be a typo in the announcement.
Legacy Creators:
These Creators are the ones who signed the Creator Agreement before midnight on 10 April 2012.
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Posted by “RigsK” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]Hi Folks,
Here's more info that might prove helpful:
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Posted by “MsPixelicious” on May 16, 2023.
[Archived]youre forcing EVERYONE to sign up for your nonsense VIP if they want to get paid for their effort and creations??
youre forcing EVERYONE to cough up a minimum of $10 a month if they want to see a cent of what theyve earned here?
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Posted by “yokoed” on May 16, 2023.
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